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IO I apologize for the roster accusation since I really don't have any hard proof that it was you. And no I don't have a screenshot program since my computer is really old and crappy. I was upset because my roster was modified by someone other than me. The transaction on Sat, Nov 13 @ 6:00 am was noted as "Roster Update (by LM)" Forte to RB/WR -> Johnson to Bench.

Here's a link to what got me so upset.
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/recentacti ... tranType=1

If that's not working, then just go to the "transactions" page, and then set the filters to include the date (Nov 13), my team (Jackwagon), and Transaction -> "moved". There it should show what I was upset about.

Regardless of the trade process, Forte should not have been automatically moved into my starting lineup. The players involved in the trade should be, and were, added to my bench, but no player should have been moved to my starting lineup.

As far as the waiver report, I only see what got processed, and my claims, regardless of success.

This was from Nov. 11th, but I think my waivers disappear since we can only see our own unsuccessful claims, but here's what I see.
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/waiverrepo ... e=20101111

1. Illustrious Offensive Steve Johnson, Buf WR Added. IO dropped Austin Collie*, Ind WR to Waivers.
2. Überstadt Lightning Browns D/ST, Cle D/ST Added.
3. 4th and looooooong David Garrard, Jac QB Added. SCHU dropped Todd Heap, Bal TE to Waivers.
4. I'm Thinking RBs Buccaneers D/ST, TB D/ST Added. TT dropped Packers D/ST, GB D/ST to Waivers.
Team Jackwagon Connor Barth, TB K Unsuccessful. Reason: Maximum roster size would be exceeded.
Team Jackwagon Lawrence Tynes, NYG K Unsuccessful. Reason: Maximum roster size would be exceeded.
Team Jackwagon Steve Johnson, Buf WR Unsuccessful. Reason: Player has already been added to another team.
5. Semi Pro Rams D/ST, StL D/ST Added. SP dropped Falcons D/ST, Atl D/ST to Waivers.
6. Boston Belichickens Josh Scobee, Jac K Added. DL1 dropped Olindo Mare, Sea K to Waivers.
7. Illustrious Offensive David Akers, Phi K Added.
8. Überstadt Lightning Dez Bryant, Dal WR Added. UBER dropped Donald Driver, GB WR to Waivers.
9. Semi Pro Greg Olsen, Chi TE Added. SP dropped Brandon Jacobs, NYG RB to Waivers.

I also missed out on a player on Nov 4th
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/waiverrepo ... e=20101104

1. Überstadt Lightning LeGarrette Blount, TB RB Added. UBER dropped Brandon Jackson, GB RB to Waivers.
2. Semi Pro Matt Bryant, Atl K Added. SP dropped Nick Folk, NYJ K to Waivers.
Team Jackwagon LeGarrette Blount, TB RB Unsuccessful. Reason: Player has already been added to another team.
3. Team Jackwagon Visanthe Shiancoe, Min TE Added. ERO dropped Jonathan Stewart*, Car RB to Waivers.
4. Boston Belichickens Saints D/ST, NO D/ST Added.
5. Illustrious Offensive Vikings D/ST, Min D/ST Added. IO dropped Patriots D/ST, NE D/ST to Waivers.
6. Boston Belichickens Olindo Mare, Sea K Added. DL1 dropped Ryan Succop, KC K to Waivers.

Both weeks I had an unsuccessful waiver claim. Both times the higher (#1) team was rewarded the claim. On Nov 4th, I missed out on LGB, but still got my Shiancoe processed so it's not like an unsuccessful claim bumps you to the back of the waiver order. Only successful ones. So as I mentioned in my original email where I disputed the apparent waiver order, how did IO's team, #1 in the standings at the time, get the #1 waiver pick? Again, I'd have no problem if another team ahead of me in the waiver order, i.e. lower in the standings as per league settings as of the date of the email, but such was not the case.

And further investigation shows that there was a note of "Modified Waiver Order" by a LM on Nov 10.
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/recentacti ... ranType=-2

Wed, Nov 10
12:43 AM LM Changed League Settings
Teams and divisions updated Changed team Überstadt Lightning abbreviation from ÜBER to UBER.
Renamed team BS BS to Golden Drew.
Changed team Golden Drew abbreviation from BS to DREW.
Changed team 4th and looooooong abbreviation from LEWI to SCHU.
League Settings
Wed, Nov 10
12:33 AM LM Changed League Settings
Team information updated Modified waiver order.
League Settings
Tue, Nov 2
4:12 AM LM Changed League Settings
Teams and divisions updated Removed division Division 1.
Added division The ELITE.
Changed team Überstadt Lightning abbreviation from UBER to ÜBER.
Changed team BS BS abbreviation from DREW to BS.
Changed team 4th and looooooong abbreviation from MiSc to LEWI.
League Settings
Tue, Nov 2
4:11 AM LM Changed League Settings
Teams and divisions updated Changed team Überstadt Lightning abbreviation from ÜBER to UBER.
Changed team BS BS abbreviation from BS to DREW.
Changed team 4th and looooooong abbreviation from LEWI to MiSc.
League Settings
Tue, Nov 2
3:59 AM LM Changed League Settings
League schedule updated Modified schedule.
League Settings

That last page is a little off since my copy/paste effort leaves much to be desired.
but again if the link is not working, go bottom of the "League" page click -> Transactions ->
adjust filter to
Activity Type -> LM Actions, Dates Nov 1 - Nov 13, click "search"

And what's the deal w/ the "Modified Schedule" on Nov 2???

And Uber, I'm not saying I can pick every game, maybe not even @ 50%, but imo, it's far more skill and less luck than you protest. I just believe while there is still a great deal of luck involved, there are many ways to minimize risks, thus minimize the impact of the luck involved.

But I do think 95% of the time, I can avoid a defense that gets less than -5pts.

wait wtf...why did you adjust my roster and when did you ask me if I was still playing? wtf is going on here. also why did my team name change.

Drew wrote:wait wtf...why did you adjust my roster and when did you ask me if I was still playing? wtf is going on here. also why did my team name change.

Yes, I sent you an e-mail earlier this week, and pm'd you, Drew, about the players and recent in-activity (mainly about leaving your bye-week layers still active).

You can also change your team to whateve it is you'd prefer Drew (even if you want to still be known as 'team BS BS') but like DL1 and erokro above have noted earlier in the season, it is kind of confusing that you haven't altered your team name to show that the proverbial "torch" has been passed. team BS BS last season was someone who was barely active in the first month of the season, and then was never heard from again, so it leaves a bad impression to a few of us still that this is happening again.

Sorry about this guys.
I think I'm trying to fix too many problems all at once and it's causing me to just make matters worse.

erokero85 wrote:That last page is a little off since my copy/paste effort leaves much to be desired.
but again if the link is not working, go bottom of the "League" page click -> Transactions ->
adjust filter to
Activity Type -> LM Actions, Dates Nov 1 - Nov 13, click "search"

And what's the deal w/ the "Modified Schedule" on Nov 2???

And Uber, I'm not saying I can pick every game, maybe not even @ 50%, but imo, it's far more skill and less luck than you protest. I just believe while there is still a great deal of luck involved, there are many ways to minimize risks, thus minimize the impact of the luck involved.

Thanks for the reply, ero. Yeah, I make due with checking the Waiver Report and View (All) Transactions as well.

A question, though, as I'm not sure: when you quoted this week's past waiver report, are the claims listed in descending order, or is it a 'last claim, listed first' sort of deal? When I look at past weeks, (just the past three) every time it is a different team that has either the first or last transaction. It's usually Team 4th and Loooong that is #1, which has me believing the first claim is the bottom team; but, I saw in the last week of Oct., DL1 had a higher claim processed before Uber or Michael, yet he's been consistently winning (or at least beating me). Hmm. Maybe I'm reading this wrong?

There's an LM search? I'll use that, if it is where you say it is.
I don't know what occurred on Nov. 2 as you stated, but I'll have a reply if the league is at all specific to what might have changed then, and what is doing now.

in response to erokero85's findings:

Here it is.

Wed, Nov 10
12:43 AM LM Changed League Settings
Teams and divisions updated Changed team Überstadt Lightning abbreviation from ÜBER to UBER.
Renamed team BS BS to Golden Drew.
Changed team Golden Drew abbreviation from BS to DREW.
Changed team 4th and looooooong abbreviation from LEWI to SCHU.
League Settings
Wed, Nov 10
12:33 AM LM Changed League Settings
Team information updated Modified waiver order.
League Settings
Tue, Nov 2
4:12 AM LM Changed League Settings
Teams and divisions updated Removed division Division 1.
Added division The ELITE.
Changed team Überstadt Lightning abbreviation from UBER to ÜBER.
Changed team BS BS abbreviation from DREW to BS.
Changed team 4th and looooooong abbreviation from MiSc to LEWI.
League Settings
Tue, Nov 2
4:11 AM LM Changed League Settings
Teams and divisions updated Changed team Überstadt Lightning abbreviation from ÜBER to UBER.
Changed team BS BS abbreviation from BS to DREW.
Changed team 4th and looooooong abbreviation from LEWI to MiSc.
League Settings
Tue, Nov 2
3:59 AM LM Changed League Settings
League schedule updated Modified schedule.
League Settings

Yes, I made those team name changes earlier this week, but it's only because I had made them at least a week ago; they were processed for just about two minutes, but then they blanked. I know TT didn't revert the names and teams and all, but something glitched in the system that day, and everything reverted backwards again. I thought it was weird, and I'd try again the next week, but i must have forgotten about it. I don't know if I can find it again.

Let me try: ah, here it is...

Tue, Nov 2
4:12 AM
Removed division Division 1.
Added division The ELITE.
Changed team Überstadt Lightning abbreviation from UBER to ÜBER.
Changed team BS BS abbreviation from DREW to BS.
Changed team 4th and looooooong abbreviation from MiSc to LEWI.

Oh. You are already listed it above. :disappoint:

For as good as I am at finding things on the net, you'd think I'd be better at noticing what has been discovered, and how to find it myself in the first palce.

The modified schedule part must be part and parcel to the team / division name changes I had made, as it shows that both LM transactions were made within ten minutes of each other. I never changed the schedule or future matchups, just the team names and a unified one division.

I tried to do the same thing this past week, but again, what I had intended was for the team names and abbreviations to correctly correspond to their owners; that's all. Ten minutes before I submitted those changes, it shows as "modified waiver order". The week before as: "modified schedule".

Am I inadvertently making changes to other LM settings by just changing the team names?
This might have been my fault guys. I'm real sorry. The week before the names didn't take, and something got changed in the process, and I try again, and I mistakenly flipped something else up.

Ah. Alright. I feel horrible.

Here's that pick 'em league I mentioned at the end of the last page.

Time for Prognosticating (click to join)
League #ID: 54851
Password: tfproject

To anyone, based on erokero's bold challenge to try to swindle Adrian Peterson away from Uber, I'll be open to a similar challenge.
Open for the next two weeks, I am, or up until whenver the trade deadline is in the league.

If you have a bold claim for the next weekend's "stone-cold lock of the week", or you want to play the overall win-loss percentages for correctly-guessed games (out of 16), or still, use the actual total confidence points set up in the group, for either 1 or 2 weeks, I'm game.

I will be placing Percy Harvin, Mike Williams, Steve Johnson, and Vernon Davis on the my chopping block.
Details to come later if you'd like to trade for any of these players. I think this is the least I can do for causing these problems for two weeks straight now.

- - -
(I was going to drop the above players, but then that's just allowing the waivers / "vulture" system to take over. -- one in which I'm not sure is fixed yet.)

erokero85 wrote:Ube, how about this, I'll predict the three IO's defenses and see how they rank, if I'm right, you give me AP. If I get the order wrong, or any get neg points, you can have any non-"can't drop" guy from my team, if two of them get neg points you can have any guy from my roster. Deal? It's all "luck" right? And yes I know it looks just like the "expert projections".

1) Titans (best bet for 10+), Giants (widest swing, could be #1 but best bet for neg), Vikings (single digits, about 5)

You know, I could probably say plenty here...But, no need... ;)

Titans = -1
Giants = -1 (At this point)
Vikings = 8

You don't chat around in other threads here Ero, so there's a good change that you might not know how and when I'll engage in debates to make points...But its not often, and more often than not, when I do, I'm harder than a man watching his favorite porn star to beat...Keep your player, and help yourself to some humble pie...There's plenty to go round... :laff:

Über wrote:

erokero85 wrote:Ube, how about this, I'll predict the three IO's defenses and see how they rank, if I'm right, you give me AP. If I get the order wrong, or any get neg points, you can have any non-"can't drop" guy from my team, if two of them get neg points you can have any guy from my roster. Deal? It's all "luck" right? And yes I know it looks just like the "expert projections".

1) Titans (best bet for 10+), Giants (widest swing, could be #1 but best bet for neg), Vikings (single digits, about 5)

You know, I could probably say plenty here...But, no need... ;)

Titans = -1
Giants = -1 (At this point)
Vikings = 8

You don't chat around in other threads here Ero, so there's a good change that you might not know how and when I'll engage in debates to make points...But its not often, and more often than not, when I do, I'm harder than a man watching his favorite porn star to beat...Keep your player, and help yourself to some humble pie...There's plenty to go round... :laff:

Says the guy who wouldn't accept the bet....

but yes I can admit when I'm wrong. Still, all 3 defenses would not have killed a team, and I didn't say you couldn't use them because I didn't think they would score a ton of negitave points.

If you still want a guy, he's yours.

In standard scoring leagues, no defense rarely "kills" a team, but with the way I play matchups, and typically stream a favorable one, I usually expect a minimum of 5 points a game from my starting defense, and anything above 9 pts is gravy. Either way, each defense I was contemplating hurt me by not performing as well as opponents.

Oh, and in standard scoring leagues (ESPN) , those three defenses were the exact opposite of your rankings...
Vikings - 4 (really surprising - I fell asleep during the game; shameful) , Giants - 1 , Titans - minus-1.

Those were the only three defenses I played this week (other than in one league where the Bears' saved me).

Does anyone have any opinions on which rookies stand out as playmakers this season? (offensive, defensive, ST)